sick of that jackass who writes for NMLRA

[ronrryan]

What Runnball said, IMHO, Good smoke, Ron

 

[roundball]

This topic needs to die a quick Natural Death. JMO :v

It died long ago...just needs to be taken off life support

 

[user 2647]

Amen to that.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

Nathan-I wasn't included in the NMLRA poll either and would have voted against in-lines if I had been. I did not appreciate the photo of the thumb hole stocked in-line at all. If I ruled the world in-lines would be banished to the trash heap and primitive hunts would go back to being primitive. I don't read articles about them because I have no interest in them but unfortunately many ill-informed people use them and love to read about them. I'm afraid we are stuck with them for the forseeable future. And I will continue to argue against their use in primitive seasons every chance I get and hope that one day they will cease to be acceptable in primitive seasons.
Nice buck by the way.

 

[akapennypincher]

O.k. lemme try this again, and try to not be so evasive...
Since you are definitely not a member of the NMLRA what do you do in a constructive manner that helps draw interest to traditional muzzleloading or the shooting sports in general, do you contribute money, do you volunteer time, or resources, meybe you host a message board for like minded folks to gather and share information ? Anything at all ? or are you just too selfish an individual to care about the future of this heritage...

There are many that frequent this site that feel the same as you I am thinking, tis a shame...

Thats o.k. I and my fellow individuals will carry your dead weight because somebody has to. :hmm:

ApprenticeBuilder

refering to me as "lemme" is IMHO Rude.

to answer your question as best I can:

Well lets say that in the year 2000 the National Field Representative Coordinator of the NMLRA Nominated ME and 4 other NMLRA Field Representatives for NMLRA Field Representative of the YEAR.


So what is it you have done lately ApprenticeBuilder to promote the shooting sports?

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

lemme = slang for, let me

So 8 years ago you ended your active service to promote the shooting sports because of a problem with the NMLRA brass.

Damn dude you do have an ax to grind

My monetary obligations run $100 a year for NRA, NMLRA, club dues. Each day I take off of work to set up and do a display costs $150 a day in lost take home wages.

I push our club as well as what we do into the public eye each chance I get (every day I show up to work).
Set up a display of one form or another the last 5 of 6 weekends + a couple work days promoting muzzleloading, we field a team each year for American Cancer Society, I have been on that team each year...

I could go on but don't really see the point, I just wanted to see where you were at today, I now realize you are living in the past.
Thats to bad as I know what it takes to be a succesful coordinator and the amount of time it takes is astronomical and is truley a sacrifice, its a shame the good guys lost ya.

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

This is like the Energizer Bunny... kick out the plug.

 

[akapennypincher]

lemme = slang for, let me

So 8 years ago you ended your active service to promote the shooting sports because of a problem with the NMLRA brass.

Damn dude you do have an ax to grind

My monetary obligations run $100 a year for NRA, NMLRA, club dues. Each day I take off of work to set up and do a display costs $150 a day in lost take home wages.

I push our club as well as what we do into the public eye each chance I get (every day I show up to work).
Set up a display of one form or another the last 5 of 6 weekends + a couple work days promoting muzzleloading, we field a team each year for American Cancer Society, I have been on that team each year...

I could go on but don't really see the point, I just wanted to see where you were at today, I now realize you are living in the past.
Thats to bad as I know what it takes to be a succesful coordinator and the amount of time it takes is astronomical and is truley a sacrifice, its a shame the good guys lost ya.

AB you asked , "do have an ax to grind"

BIG A**ED AX, and I have a Very Long Memory.

Gave up my Volunteer position with AZ Game & Fish, after 8 years, and over 4000 Hour of Volunteering as a Range Safety Officer, after they rubbed me wrong.

Hell I still love to go shooting, but this organized shooting imho is B******T.

Let say if you don't say thank to me for giving my time, I say NO more OF MY Time for YOU. :nono:

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

Let say if you don't say thank to me for giving my time, I say NO more OF MY Time for YOU.

I agree it is a thankless task, and it takes an emense amount of fortitude to stay focused.

I belong to a club with over 115 member/families but we have, generally, not much more than a 10% turnout for any one function, always the same people doing ALL of the work. Then there is the contingent trying to tear the club apart from the inside. That is a fact of clubs and volunteer work in general.

Then to get back to the topic there are those that will not let sleeping dogs lie and incessantly bash this group, that club, the other organization, etc. The anti-gun/hunting groups are one and the same and they are winning.

Didn't mean to call you out but inquiring minds ( mine ) wanted to know.

 

[Claude Mathis]

This topic needs to die a quick Natural Death. JMO :v

Why is it that the people who keep calling for this thread to be closed keep reading it and posting to it? :haha:

You (everyone complaining) are in control of what you read.

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

Claude,

You crack me up :rotf: :haha:

The shear obviousness of it...

I would like to help support your site, just don't wanna have the star and different color next to my handle.

 

[ResearchPress]

No one seems to have considered that if the in-line users are reading NMLRA publications, then there is opportunity for you to promote the traditional aspects of the sport to that readership. Or is everyone so entrenched in their views that neither camp is willing to listen to the other?

As a spectator sport this debate (I hesitate to use the word as that would imply you might be listening to each other) is suprisingly fun. In between the mud slinging there's been some quite reasoned argument from both sides. I am still however astonished at how much bickering and one-upmanship there is amongst the 'traditionalists' here. Meanwhile I suppose while you enjoy all this infighting others with their nice shiny in-lines are out playing with their toys and enjoying themselves.

David

 

[akapennypincher]

Well I do not think closing the thread would accomplish much, IMHO the course of the NMLRA is set.

Membership has fallen

Charter club Affiliation has fallen

Territorial Shoots has fallen

All because the BOD of the NMLRA never listens to what members say, and change thing for the better.

The BOD attitude is send you money to Friendship, and be a Mushroom.

When the gate at Friendship is locked for the last time the BOD may wake up.

 

[Claude Mathis]

Well I do not think closing the thread would accomplish much, IMHO the course of the NMLRA is set.
Membership has fallen
Charter club Affiliation has fallen
Territorial Shoots has fallen
All because the BOD of the NMLRA never listens to what members say, and change thing for the better.

Then what is the point in keeping this thread open? If things are as you say, then there should be no reason to even be discussing this.

According to you, the NMLRA is dead. Why don't you just leave it at that and move on? Why continue to convince those who still care about the organization that they are wrong (in your eyes)? Why do you care what others do?

 

[akapennypincher]

Well I am done posting on this thread, anyone who want to discuss it more with me PM ME. :thumbsup:

 

[david64]

Was such a good organization.

 

[Greenmtnboy]

This topic needs to die a quick Natural Death. JMO :v

Why is it that the people who keep calling for this thread to be closed keep reading it and posting to it? :haha:

You (everyone complaining) are in control of what you read.

no doubt.
Lets keep it going 34 pages have to be some kinda record :haha:
And just maby sombody from the NMLRA will hear about the hornets nest Al drummed up with his contraversal, short range, article and do somthing about it.
We have almost 13,000 members thats a lot of money towards the NMLRA if they were to go back to the old ways and got the folks who gave up on them back on their side, in fact with all that money they woulden't have to sell out to the inliners and Al could go peddle his "contraversal" articles for some centerfire rifle mag.
:blah:
Anyway there are many good and imporant points brought here by everybody and even tho I got "hot" now and then I hold no ill feelings towards anyone here.
:hatsoff:

 

[11th corps]

Well let me jump in here
I am not a hunter, so I don't really have a dog in this fight between inlines and traditional hunting season. I do think that inlines often violate the spirit of the traditional season.
As far as the Muzzleblasts mazagaine/NMLRA is concerned, I have been an NMLRA member for more then a decade. I live in northern Indiana, and have never shot at Friendship, but have visited several times during the national shoot, usually just to go down vendors row.
I would rather read articles about inlines-then alot of the manure I read in the magazine. articles about "how to live the olden way", how to barter, some indian/settler skirmish-
I want to see
More articles about guns and their equipment/building/accessories.
Less about anything else.
The organization is the National "Muzzleloading Rifle Assoc".
Not, you didn't learn this in history class, so here it is.

One more thing
If Daniel Boone, Davey crockett or your other favorite fronterisman were to come back to life, you can bet your bippy he would not be toting an inline
He'd have an AR 15 with Superscope, and about 500 rounds of ammo. :wink:

 

[tg]

"If Daniel Boone, Davey crockett or your other favorite fronterisman were to come back to life, you can bet your bippy he would not be toting an inline"

I was wondering when someone would throw out that piece of...what did you call the historical articles in the mag? oh yeah KRAP with a capitol P
as in pathetic, that mentality or lack of any is typical of those not having a clue, probably knows how to spell muzzleloader but also probably figures that loading from the front is all that there is that seperates this sport from other gun activities, Krap again,it is a sad thing that the ML world is reduced to that kind of reasoning and attitude, yep if Davy would have had one he would have used one.. that's about as ridiculus as one can get. :shake:

 

[11th corps]

Oh get over it.
Just because we don't care for the same things in the m/l world, doesn't mean we can't be on the same side pulling the wagon.
So I don't care about the historical articles. Big deal. I didn't say you couldn't love them.