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How long will it take for that water to rust out your breech plug threads ?.....Olson
 
:applause: Well I'm glad you got off the making of B____ P_____ subject.We've got enough problems trying to keep our 2nd Ammendment! (oh yea,you Canadians don't have a 2nd Ammendment)....Olson
 
I meant the ones with the seed still in them - wouldn't dream of using the saboted ones for hunting, just not ethical IMO and not PC either.

But for target shooting those green ones with the red stuff you need to pin them first, just like your ramrod. A toothpick works well, especially if it is left over from a Martini. With a stout load underneath you may want to use a clove of garlic as a wad to isolate them from the powder. For removal I use an olive puller.

Getting hungry, gotta go,
Steve

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Olson said:
How long will it take for that water to rust out your breech plug threads ?.....Olson
Strange question...frankly, it sounds like it's intended to provoke controversy...
 
Okay, I'll take the bait...

Black powder and its fired residue are water soluble. Why complicate things?

I clean with creek water, tap water -- whatever water is available and have for years. I will fill; slosh; force water through the vent; clean dry and check with patches; and apply some preservative.

I endured comments about how this was rusting my Tennessee bore and breach plug. We looked down there with a bore light and saw bright shiny metal. Then, I had to hear that my breach plug was likely rusting beyond our ability to see. I finally knocked the pins out; pulled the barrel and unscrewed the plug to show bright shiny steel there as well. As I built this rifle, I knew that there was no gap between the end of the plug and the beginning of the rifling to keep fouling or moisture in this critical area. This gun was built in early 1998 and had no rust in that area. I have friends who give longer and similar results.

I have to ask how you think the average man cleaned his MLs since the time of the first colonists?

CS
 
Read the same artical in Backwoodsman. He also said it worked as a patch lube. Sounds like it'll work to me. I'm going to use my boiling hot water first clean, olive oil second clean/lube method and see if it's any easier to keep things clean. I've been using Ballistol and I really like it but I've always liked olive oil for leather and such so it'll probably work on guns too.
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Before the advent of petroleum lubes (what - late 1800's?), things were different. Sperm oil may have been the best, but highly refined olive oil was right up there.
 
Marquette remarked in 1673 that Indians along the Mississippi River used oil from nuts(which nuts,?) to annoint their bodies and to lubricate their firearms.
 
TANSTAAFL said:
Marquette remarked in 1673 that Indians along the Mississippi River used oil from nuts(which nuts,?) to annoint their bodies and to lubricate their firearms.
Hickory Nuts are pretty common in my part of the woods as are Chestnuts. Could have been either one I'd bet.
 
You are likely right, I would think walnuts would provide a viable oil also. I do wish the chronicler's would have elaborated a bit more, but thankful they recorded what they did.
 
Acorns, maybe, but not hickory nuts, if you've ever cracked hickory nuts you'd know it would take you a month of 8 hr. days to get enough oil to oil a 1 gun. Peanuts have been around since the
1700s, I think, and have a lot of oil in them.
Has anyone tried peanut oil as a patch lube?
 
Actually, hickory nuts were gathered and boiled to remove the oil. The oil was used in foods and as a sweetener supposedly. I have never heard of it being used for any other purpose.
 
Agreed, for eating one would expend much energy extracting the sweet meat.

But, I would think a simple floatation method might be viable. Using stones, crush up the nuts, shell and all. Bring a container of water to a boil, add the crushed nuts and allow to boil for an appropriate time, cool down and skim off the resulting floating oil. This process would not be that labor intensive.
 
"...Peanuts have been around since the
1700s, I think, and have a lot of oil in them...."

I can see it coming!

"Hi! I just shot a 1/2 inch group at 100 yards with my new found Peanut Butter patch lube! :)

After extensive tests, I found that Laura Scudders Natural Peanut Butter, which is 100 percent natural without salt or sugar added is the best. It is also the only one you can take to a Judged Re-enactment. Woe be to the poor soul who trys to use one of the popular brands.

If your not at a judged meeting, Skippy works in a pinch but Jif has way too much sugar and will produce lots of wild flyers.

The folks who want to be Period Correct should mash up their roasted peanuts with a wooden stick in a wooden bowl but this will leave splinters in the lube that may cause loading difficulties.

Oh! Keep your kids away from your patch lube. If they find it, within minutes you will have to go back to shooting spit patches or lard."

(Just kidding, you know. No offence meant to anyone).
:grin: :grin:
 
Zonie said:
I can see it coming!

"Hi! I just shot a 1/2 inch group at 100 yards with my new found Peanut Butter patch lube!" :)

Won't work, the roundball will stick to the roof of the bore... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
 
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