you are absolutely correct on the grip . The grip in my opinion is one of the most important factors in a handgun much like the stock in a shotgun. I have skateboard tape on the grip of my IPSC pistol. Ugly but super functional. Not jokeing on the super glue. been using that stuff for decades on lots of things your not supposed to including skin repair. certainly not as professional as your method but it does still allow for adjustment and keeps stuff from moving unintentionally but I get your point.
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Pedersoli Kuchenreuter pistol review w/ Match tuning
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Your descriptions of process including "why" are superb. 
Hi Charles, Good explanations.
I missed being at Nationals this year. I hope everything went well.
Barry
I missed being at Nationals this year. I hope everything went well.
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Hi Barry, Well enough to take all 3 Championships and have James, the 14 year old young man I have been coaching take the Unclassified Championship and the Junior Championship. Hope you make it in "25" Barry...nsp
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Never have shot modern Repo that did not require a lot of the tuning as I described. Some I would consider next to useless without some extreme tuning. Expecting my set triggers to pass some sort of bump test would not allow me to adjust them to the 1.5 Oz. weight they are. Only setting your trigger while pointing down range. Every once in a while accidentally blowing a shot into the grass will happen with very light set triggers. Practice at home dry firing your set triggers helps...nsp
NSP I was following the instructions in the owners manual. I get that the owners manual may not apply to pros but I did not think it would be that far off.
D) Holding the gun pointing upwards, knock the butt sharply several times against a wood surface protecting the stock in a proper way. repeat this shock test while holding the gun in other positions.
E) The hammer must not be released. If the hammer is released you must increase the release pressure slightly until the hammer never releases when being tested in several different positions.
FWIW my trigger does not pass the test. I do like it to be stable enough that I can rest my finger on it while sighting without having an AD. I want it to go bang when the sights are in the right place.
D) Holding the gun pointing upwards, knock the butt sharply several times against a wood surface protecting the stock in a proper way. repeat this shock test while holding the gun in other positions.
E) The hammer must not be released. If the hammer is released you must increase the release pressure slightly until the hammer never releases when being tested in several different positions.
FWIW my trigger does not pass the test. I do like it to be stable enough that I can rest my finger on it while sighting without having an AD. I want it to go bang when the sights are in the right place.
Ehhh...IME I've found owners' manuals to be somewhat lacking.
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Not sure who wrote that. Like a warning label approved by liers/ lawyers. My tuning and loads have to do with what wins championships. I Have .found the factory manuals only chuckle and scoff worthy. Maybe I should thank them for steering many of my follow competitors so wrong. .Maybe I should follow the advice of many fellow champions who suggest nobody will listen or care so don't bother. They will listen to those magazine writers, you tube guys ,gun book writers and factory manual writers. Doesn't matter if the best placement they can manage at the Nats is observing and hoping for a participation award. But,I don't care... I have helped a few people win National championships and I will help a few more. The most recent is a result of reading my posts on this board. A father who brought his 14 year old son to me for coaching is now the 2024 NMLRA National pistol champion in his class and Juniors class. Did I have to field some various " I read this or watched that you tube expert" yes...Please invite them to the Nats. I'm easy to find on the pistol line. Please show me your skills. I'm always looking to learn from someone who out shoots me. A fun $$$ match would be nice....nsp
Thought I would treat you guys with some pictures of a double rifle built by Adam Kuchenreuter I restored from a rusty basket case last year. This is a .50 caliber black powder cartridge rifle that I am trying to get to regulate with custom bullets. It has shot apart starting with 400 grn. Pistol bullets . I have reduced the length / weight and am at 270 grain hollow base to get it to come together. Adam was know for his percussion Target pistols and also gallery air pistols that shot darts. They are the longest producing gunmakers in Germany with Victor still making high end guns today in Germany.
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"A father who brought his 14 year old son to me for coaching is now the 2024 NMLRA National pistol champion in his class and Juniors class."
He was the only youth shooter, hard to lose when there is no one else shooting, is there?
He was the only youth shooter, hard to lose when there is no one else shooting, is there?
Uncle Miltie
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Thanks for your in-depth review of this arm, particularly the exploded views of the lock and your opinions on it as a competitive shooter.
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First...their was another youth shooter who did not bother to turn his targets in after seeing James scores...Second...Competitors are not responsible for others not having the "bleep" to enter... Third; Extra credit to those with the "bleep" to enter,.. Forth; Those without the "bleep " not so much, just excuses...nsp
I am not questioning your knowledge. Just explaining what happened to me when I bought a really expensive pistol and read the owners manual. When I shot IPSC I had a very good gunsmith locally who ended up sponsoring me keeping my pistol running correctly. I can do some basic stuff but your method of completely retuning the lock is probably beyond my skill set with metal work.
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Understandable that anyone would would think factory manuals or even gun magazines and books would be a good place to start. Unfortunately they are fair to poorly passable if winning match accuracy is needed...nsp...updated... Some exceptions are any articles written by Bill Carver ( Pistol Shots) In NMLRA magazines years ago and by Mike Luma (Pistol Shots 2) . 2 of our greatest ML Pistol champions. If you are a NMLRA member you can search our Muzzle Blasts magazines archives to read the best tips from real National Championships dominating shooters...nsp
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More adjustment; Bottom trigger is set. Top trigger is not set. What is new? The trigger has been bent slightly back to both flatten the curve and shorten the length of pull. The trigger guard screws into the trigger plate. Notice it seems like it might screw in another full turn. It does. It fits my trigger finger and second finger better with this adjustment...nsp
Thank you for providing this information.
Early European Makers Set World Standard for Quality & Accuracy.
I wholly agree with with No second place & other members that a pistol's grip configuration combined with fine quality locks, set trigger & barrels play a major role in how well we score 'if' shooter has a very steady hand
When much younger I did fairly well in competition by shooting original European rifles & pistols, there were no manufactures of repro target pistols until later years.
Now @ 82 my competition days are in the past.
Below are types of single shot pistols I enjoyed shooting.
-the first is a .38 cal. Danish Target pistol w/ rifled bore.
-Upper pistol is a French in .53 cal. w/ rifled bore.
*The lower pistol with fluted grips is a .70 Cal French officers pistol,
It's larger bore with micro groove rifling made spotting hits @ 25yds. on paper easier
I wholly agree with with No second place & other members that a pistol's grip configuration combined with fine quality locks, set trigger & barrels play a major role in how well we score 'if' shooter has a very steady hand
When much younger I did fairly well in competition by shooting original European rifles & pistols, there were no manufactures of repro target pistols until later years.
Now @ 82 my competition days are in the past.
Below are types of single shot pistols I enjoyed shooting.
-the first is a .38 cal. Danish Target pistol w/ rifled bore.
-Upper pistol is a French in .53 cal. w/ rifled bore.
*The lower pistol with fluted grips is a .70 Cal French officers pistol,
It's larger bore with micro groove rifling made spotting hits @ 25yds. on paper easier
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Hey where can anyone buy the ku
Hey where can anyone buy the Kuchenreuter model? Thanks
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Sellers of Pedersoli .Not often in stock but Cherrys can import one for you...nsp
Thanks NSP
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