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  1. M

    What is a "musket"?

    I've got to say that I've found this to be a very informative thread. I clicked on it thinking that I already knew what a musket was and that I'd just check out whatever flame war happened to be going on. Suffice it to say I've learned quite a bit about something I thought I already knew...
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    Indian made muskets

    My understanding is that a proof test involves test firing the gun from a distance with an overcharge of powder and shot and assuming that it survives, inspecting the barrel for any damage. I would imagine that in this day and age that is probably best done with a both a micrometer and an...
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    Indian made muskets

    Regarding the inletting. It is indeed quite poor. They may not have been inlet with a screwdriver, but they definitely were inlet with a chisel and not too delicately. I was at a reenactment this weekend, (civil war), and while there I saw a Pedersoli Bess, (not exactly sure why it was...
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    Indian made muskets

    One thing to keep in mind about these Indian muskets is that they do not hold their value. That's bad if you want to sell the gun you bought new, but good if you are in the market for one. I have seen Indian Bess's going used for $300 or less.
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    Indian made muskets

    One other thing. Once I got the cruddy finish off the stock, the wood turned out looking surprisingly good with a nice attractive grain.
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    Indian made muskets

    I'm glad they're out there since they build a lot of guns that would otherwise only be available as either antiques or very expensive custom builds, but I think that if you order one you should be willing to either accept a gun with poor fit and finish or look on it as a project that will take...
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    brown bess muskets, who sells them?

    Well, I have a Long Land from MVT. I paid $600 for it. Whether it would be suitable for your purposes depends on what you would expect of them. I wasn't terribly impressed myself and were I to do it over again I would either start with a Pedersoli or buy a used Indian musket. I'm not...
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    Heck, four years from now the Chinese will be more capitalist than we are.
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    If Traditions can sell this, http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=264886 for $570, ($513 if you pay an additional $30 to join their "buyers club"), then I don't see any reason why they couldn't make a musket for the same price.
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    You know I missed this the first time around. Now there's no way I'm going to argue that the Indian made muskets are high quality, but the idea that a high quality musket couldn't be made for less than $800 sounds ludicrous. I mean there's a lock, a very long smoothbore barrel and a longer...
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    I think that's actually the best and most honest case that can be made against them. They simply aren't well crafted. One of the things I found somewhat frustrating while I was reworking my own gun, was that with most of the little errors it wouldn't have taken much more time or money to have...
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    That's kind of how I do my own WECSOGing. It works pretty well for a one off too if you're willing to put the time into it. Not a good idea for production though.
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    The Chinese seem to have learned the basics of factory production and while I'd still expect a lot of cut corners with a Chinese muzzleloader, I would also expect a much greater degree of uniformity. The Chinese seem to cut corners by using soft wood for stocks, bad bluing and that awful...
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    Middlesex Village Trading

    The longarms from MVTC don't cost between $600 and $800. Most cost between $500 and $600 with the most expensive one that I could find being $700, (flintlock DB shotgun), and the cheapest $399. There has only been one confirmed kaboom from these muskets and from all indications and a...
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    middlesex village trading

    I've ordered from them in the past. They're a husband and wife team and they get their guns from India. My experience with their customer service was very good. They're not always there to answer the phone, but if you leave a message they get back to you quickly. As far as the Brown Bess...
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    Flintlock Gizmo

    I think the real solution is to improve the ignition of the fake powders. After all, who wants to have a traditional flintlock with some goofy modern lighter type thing attached to it? Why not throw on a quad rail and a forward pistol grip as well? My understanding of black powder is that...
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    Tecumseh's Repeater

    I wouldn't be surprised if they took steps to ensure infection. They would almost certainly be familiar with it and with the necessity of keeping wounds clean in order to avoid it. A little feces smeared on the arrow tip would probably do the job and give a little taste of revenge at the...
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    Opinions on Middlesex Trading

    I don't think MVTC sell a double barrel flintlock fowler. If they do it's not on their site. They have a double barrel caplock that they say will be available soon though. To me that just doesn't have the same appeal. What I'd really like to see them sell is a big bore blunderbuss.
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    brownbess range report with .690ball

    I think that the way reenactors load here in America certainly is safe, but when they do it they only use a powder charge and they don't ram it down, (they don't even have ramrods when shooting blanks). My understanding of the redcoat's and colonial manual of arms is that they would start by...
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    brownbess range report with .690ball

    I think to really understand the military loads, you'd have to practice "rapid-fire" and attempt to load and fire three or more times in a minute. Personally, I'm not going to try it. I remember watching some reenactor do it on a show hosted by R. Lee Ermey and halfway through he had a charge...
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