Building me a N.W. tradegun. Again ! :D

[Flint62Smoothie]

That butt plate looks great and I love the square nails. Working with the brass is much easier than that 100-year old steel, huh?

 

[Rob M.]

That butt plate looks great and I love the square nails. Working with the brass is much easier than that 100-year old steel, huh?

Thanks bud .... Oh yeah ! much easier . Can't wait to get my forge fixed up.and going and try annealing a piece of the old steel . Ive forged a couple trigger guards from it too but that last one that broke....Mmmm .... That was a shame . I was SO liking it .

 

[TDM]

@Rob M., a published collection of all your builds just as you show and narrate here would be awesome.

 

[WALT53]

Trigger in and working ...measure your length of pull , mark it , square of tope of yer comb and mark it good for saw .Cut off any extra wood at buttstock end .Cut out yer buttplate , I use a Whately style buttplate pattern from Bills book . I cut it out rough then grind and file it to finish , bend tab over in the vice , anneal if you can , then lay it on , over the heal of buttstock and trace the B.P. tab ....inlet it down flush ...then mark your 8 buttplate nail holes , still them , I make nails . then I hammer on that ole buttplate ....

Rob are your butt plates same width all the except for the whately shape on top of comb and rounded bottom ,2”s wide by 6”s long end at 4”s.
Just guessing by looking at the picture.

 

[Rob M.]

I started and ....just couldnt stop ! Got er down pretty good ! Time for lazy spot , a movie on and go through Muzzleloader Forum now ! Got a bit done today but so many interruptions like yesterday .... Oh well ...

 

[Rob M.]

Rob are your butt plates same width all the except for the whately shape on top of comb and rounded bottom ,2”s wide by 6”s long end at 4”s.
Just guessing by looking at the picture.

Ive never checked but I'd guess they are all different widths . You do have a copy of Bills trade gun building manual , right ? I used the Whately pattern from it

 

[hawkenhunter50]

A cheap loose leaf book would be kind cool . Much like Bill did it . Very inexpensive so anyone could afford it . I really wonder though , doesnt seem to be many folks will or wanting to try to build .I could be wrong but just doesn't seem like to many hard core folks willing to do the work , sure would like to help out any such person though . Also ( joking , having fun here ) ...a few folks on this forum tell.me I'm full of $hit and do t know what I'm talkin about so maybe I'll just stop . I'm just making all this $hit up so I can try and look smart to everyone anyway ! LOL

I met and talked with a guy at Kempton last week that had a trade gun he built. I was asking him about it and he told me he got a lot of advice from you before starting it. It looked good so you musta done a good job teaching.

 

[Rob M.]

I met and talked with a guy at Kempton last week that had a trade gun he built. I was asking him about it and he told me he got a lot of advice from you before starting it. It looked good so you musta done a good job teaching.

Very kind of him....he done all the work though . Hope I can help folks every once in awhile . I remember my first couple trade guns , LOL ....I was calling Ken Netting and Cecil Brooks asking them dumb " new builder " questions . They were very patient with me

 

[hawkenhunter50]

Very kind of him....he done all the work though . Hope I can help folks every once in awhile . I remember my first couple trade guns , LOL ....I was calling Ken Netting and Cecil Brooks asking them dumb " new builder " questions . They were very patient with me

And now you're returning the favor. Next I may be asking you some dumb questions!! i bought a trade gun barrel from Rice at the show. No walnut stock blanks though. Guy told me walnut is hard to get right now.

 

[Rob M.]

Rob are your butt plates same width all the except for the whately shape on top of comb and rounded bottom ,2”s wide by 6”s long end at 4”s.
Just guessing by looking at the picture.

Oh , sorry ....on top of comb . I do believe the Barnett comb is a little more narrow on top of the comb . You can check the pattern in Bills manual .. . The Barnett pattern is really nice buttstock design ...more rounded flowing lines . Funny , I dont know why but I always make a Whately style for myself ... Not really sure why but that cruder style just suits me

 

[Rob M.]

And now you're returning the favor. Next I may be asking you some dumb questions!! i bought a trade gun barrel from Rice at the show. No walnut stock blanks though. Guy told me walnut is hard to get right now.

Exactly !, returning the favor , gotta help folks . You ever need any advice or such dont hesitate to ask. I'm not a know it all but I'll try and help ya. I just got a Rice barrel from.my Buddy Tommy , gonna use it for a Fusil de chasse build . Good lookin barrels but I have no experience with the them . I really wanna see one of their feather weigh barrels ...

 

[Rob M.]

@Rob M., a published collection of all your builds just as you show and narrate here would be awesome.

Sounds pretty neat ! ...I'd be a bit worried I'd , uhmmm ....how to say it ....not copy intentionally but kinda emulate Bills manual by accident because its how I learned and its so good .

 

[Rob M.]

Trigger guard made ....

 

[Rob M.]

So ...I put trigger guard up there , made sure trigger had enough travel to work the lock , then marked guard and T.G. tang screw hole , drilled hole through wood in stock , the barrel back in , drilled again to mark tang , then back apart , drill tang at angle on drill press , then barrel back in , run long tap up through hole , tap tang 8/32" ....used cheap bolt ( temp use during build ) and cut it down when I bolted T.G. on ....marked optimum spot for touch hole , center punched mark , adjusted it ...then drilled it .... Then whole gun back together ....time for 1st shot !!

 

[Rob M.]

Very first shot ... I shot it 3 times . Very fast ignition , shocker , and sounded SO great !! Pardon my language in the VDO , it actually startled me ! LOL ! Coffee break !

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Do you internally cone your touch holes or even use liners at all?

 

[Rob M.]

Do you internally cone your touch holes or even use liners at all?

No liner , I externally cone them

 

[Rob M.]

Put side plate on . S.P. mortice still needs to be cut off though , too thivck but I hats later . Middle screw first , center pun h drill , then marks at front bolt hole , middle bolt in , swing S.P. around , mark.spot and center punch front hole , drill and bolt in .... the tail ...aint lined up.Tap itwith brass rod till centered .Do tail bolt , screw , later after mortice is done .....

 

[Cayman like]

Beautiful, Beautiful!!! As always!

 

[Rob M.]

Beautiful, Beautiful!!! As always!

Thanks bud . ...gettin there ! Can't wait to get it finished and shoot some R.B. through it !